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==When failing and when not on 32bit machine==
I've written (and tested) the C and UNIX Shell code, showing that they stop in the year 2033, depending on the fact that both uses the (g)libc on a 32bit system; in fact a run on a 64bit machine was successful. But this must not make one think the same apply on e.g. Python and Java code: in fact I've test them too, and they give the '''right results''' even on my machine! So, they don't use the underlying libc to compute dates and time. Luckly! So they proved to be really system independent! --[[User:ShinTakezou|ShinTakezou]] 16:07, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
'''Note''': UNIX Shell example uses standard tools like date, which in turn uses (g)libc library, that in its ''standard'' POSIX implementation is limited by the underlying ''hardware'' max integer. So on 64bit machines it will give the right answers until 2121; on 32bit machines, no, no matter how the code is changed (it should use some other program and avoid <tt>date</tt>... of course we could use any of the interpreter installed on a system, but it would be almost cheating:D) --[[User:ShinTakezou|ShinTakezou]] 18:10, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
==Yuletide Wish==
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Same prog on different machine
Yes, and I see it is a 64bit machine, isn't it? I am still on plain 32 bit! --ShinTakezou 14:55, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
- True. But it is all worth knowing :-) --Paddy3118 14:56, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Hey - why not make it interesting and have the program print the years when Dec. 25 falls on Sunday through 2121. Let's see if any get this wrong. --64.238.49.65 15:11, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
- The date is internally stored as seconds from the year 1970 (more or less). I've computed (2038-1970)*365*24*3600, obtaining 2144448000; now, we are near the limit for a 32bit signed integer... but not to the limit of a 64bit signed integer. I take a note for the day I will ask myself is it is worth buying a 64bit hardware :) About the 2121, 64bit systems still can :) With a 64bit signed int, you can really go a lot further (I wonder if you thought about a limit in the way the day is found) --ShinTakezou 15:22, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
- What I'm referring to is that 2100 is not a leap year. There may be software out there that miscalculates this, and therefore gets the dates wrong. --Rldrenth 16:17, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
- I hope it goes ok, since how to compute correctly leap years is on the first page of every good programming book —well at least it was on the books I've seen :D --ShinTakezou 16:29, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Ada program
I've installed GNAT too, and tried the Ada code; it says:
yuletide.adb:1:06: "Ada.Calendar.Formatting" is not a predefined library unit
Should the Ada coders add a libheader or such an info? Or is it a GNAT problem? Would like to know. --ShinTakezou 15:28, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
- Did you used the -gnat05 switch? Ada.Calendar.Formatting is a library unit of Ada 2005. However, I presume you have some very outdated version of GNAT, because even without the switch, the compiler should tell:
yuletide.adb:1:18: warning: "Ada.Calendar.Formatting" is an Ada 2005 unit
- My version is 20081029-43. OK, it is GNAT Pro. GNAT GPL should be xxxxxxxx-41, I guess. --Dmitry-kazakov 16:46, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
- Tried... I've GNAT 4.2.3, GPL of course... maybe it's a Pro only unit :( --ShinTakezou 18:05, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
When failing and when not on 32bit machine
I've written (and tested) the C and UNIX Shell code, showing that they stop in the year 2033, depending on the fact that both uses the (g)libc on a 32bit system; in fact a run on a 64bit machine was successful. But this must not make one think the same apply on e.g. Python and Java code: in fact I've test them too, and they give the right results even on my machine! So, they don't use the underlying libc to compute dates and time. Luckly! So they proved to be really system independent! --ShinTakezou 16:07, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Note: UNIX Shell example uses standard tools like date, which in turn uses (g)libc library, that in its standard POSIX implementation is limited by the underlying hardware max integer. So on 64bit machines it will give the right answers until 2121; on 32bit machines, no, no matter how the code is changed (it should use some other program and avoid date... of course we could use any of the interpreter installed on a system, but it would be almost cheating:D) --ShinTakezou 18:10, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Yuletide Wish
I thought I would write up the task at lunchtime when at work, and have time enugh to do a Python implementation when I got home. No such luck, you beat me too it :-)
Well, let me be the first to wish you fellow RC'ers happy holidays then. --Paddy3118 17:12, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks and the same to you all. --ShinTakezou 18:06, 12 December 2008 (UTC)